2005-05-15 [I Heart Jason]: greetings beautiful

2005-05-15 [deviey]: *looks around*..........*steps aside*

2005-05-15 [Daughter of Isis]: *?????*

2005-05-15 [deviey]: ^^;;;;;;

2005-05-20 [SatinkaWolf]: and [I Heart Jason] would be speaking to whom? lol. How is everyone doing?

2005-05-20 [JWOlette]: that is how he says hi most off the time its normal dont be scareded and im doing really good no recent deaths to report and the whole studying for the high priestess thing is doing ok how about you lov

2005-05-20 [deviey]: well.....here it's storming ^^ everyone ran for cover, while me and all my friends run outside ^^ it was fun ^^ i've gotta thank the elements of Air and Water when I get home ^^

2005-05-21 [Daughter of Isis]: good child....lol

2005-05-21 [deviey]: ^^ thanks

2005-05-23 [Daughter of Isis]: lol

2005-05-24 [JWOlette]: hey there is nothing wrong with playin in the rain its fun no matter how old u are

2005-05-24 [deviey]: i'm 13 ^^ my b-day was yesterday.....on the full moon ^^ totally sweet ^^

2005-05-24 [Alfirin Lindlea]: Ah twas my boyfriend's birthday yesterday

2005-05-24 [deviey]: well tell him happy b-day for me ^^

2005-05-24 [Alfirin Lindlea]: Shall do... and muchos happy birthdays to you :D Did you have a good day?

2005-05-24 [deviey]: yup ^^

2005-05-24 [Alfirin Lindlea]: Yay :)

2005-05-26 [Daughter of Isis]: new topic of the week

2005-05-27 [SatinkaWolf]: new topic? need suggestions.. I'm not able to get on more than once every few days, so I'm running dry on non-horse topics (new job working 10-12 hrs/ day on a rescue farm)

2005-05-27 [Tanka]: shoot what is it with us horsey people you get us started on horses and we never shut up on any other subject we eventually run dry amusing isn't it? any how i first started studing and practicing about 1 1/2 yrs ago i consider myself a solitary eceltic and well lets see i didn't fit well with the "church" and i had problems believeing what they taught so i began searching for something else and that's what drew me to wicca

2005-05-28 [Daughter of Isis]: thats great!

2005-05-30 [deviey]: sweet ^^

2005-05-30 [JWOlette]: ok i really dont hink u all want to know how i got started with wicca/paganism but anyway how are you all doing

2005-05-31 [SatinkaWolf]: I'm basically from the same "roots" as Tanka... started with the church, didn't agree with everything and started looking elsewhere... also, I'm basically a solitary eclectic, though I do practice with a few friends once in a while... Jess, Tiff, Will (I hope *wink*)...

2005-05-31 [deviey]: kewl ^^

2005-05-31 [SatinkaWolf]: and lil_one, why wouldn't we want to know how you got started?

2005-05-31 [deviey]: yeah!

2005-05-31 [SatinkaWolf]: hey, deviey... how things going?

2005-05-31 [deviey]: good ^^ how r things with u?

2005-05-31 [SatinkaWolf]: good.. going to bed now, though... later

2005-05-31 [deviey]: byez ^^

2005-05-31 [Alfirin Lindlea]: Ooh new topic. Ok well I think yeah they exist but no theyshouldn't be used - you should wait for love to come to you naturally, and by itself rather than forcing it. Loving for the sake of loving isn't really love

2005-05-31 [Daughter of Isis]: ([SatinkaWolf], dont worry, you will get to practice with Will....hes doing quite well...im using my birthday as some more lessons, seeing as hes taking me to salem for it....(im sorry about the pics....i dont know where they are lil one!! im horrible! lol)as for the topic...they do exist, but are against every pagan and wiccan law....they manipulate, control, and take away free will, and everyone well knows that doing those would cause harm...not to mention, you'd always wonder if they truly loved you, or if it was just the spell...and who wants to force someone to love them???? theres no gratification in that!! I'm happy knowing that Will fell in love with me on his own...

2005-05-31 [Daughter of Isis]: loves me of his accord............forcing someone to do something...through magick or not, is against The Law....Karma would be unkind to you...and thats one bitch you dont wanna try tangoing with....lol.....anyone who does love spells one someone else is a desparate manipulative person, and i'd never want to be one of those ppl.....would you???????

2005-05-31 [Alfirin Lindlea]: It's worse when you discover you're the subject of one of those spells...

2005-06-01 [Daughter of Isis]: ouch....that sucks.....

2005-06-01 [SatinkaWolf]: hey, tiff... remember a certain couple of spells from sophomore year, though? lol... fortunately, they weren't true love spells, at least, not like the ones in the movies... lol

2005-06-01 [JWOlette]: well happy birthday tiff i cant figure out if its late or not and u really dont wanna know about how i got started its a long and tiring story thats over told by my friends

2005-06-02 [Tanka]: of course love spells exist but it is a question of a person's morals on wether or not they use them me i personally feel that it is stupid to cast a spell on someone who does not like you for who you are and in all honest could give a rats ass about "love" it also helps that my family all agrees that i'm totally oblivious to the fact that some guys actually think i'm cute. oh well i'm too busy to carry on such a relationship at this time anyhow.

2005-06-02 [deviey]: kewl

2005-06-04 [JWOlette]: u guys missed it some 23 year old messaged one of my friends and told her that what she believed in and people like us were the cause of his gurlfriends death he told her that we were all gonna burn in hell so to prove him wrong to prove it was against what we believed in i sent him the Atridanes i think thats what they are called they are 161 laws to follow and i sent him the witches rede i told him to read them before he told anyone else they were going to hell for what happened to his gurlfriend it was a "curse" put on her by some one wiccan or pagan and what he said really hurt he told me and her both that we were gonna burn like all the rest

2005-06-04 [Daughter of Isis]: [SatinkaWolf]....those were dif tho...they werent ON a particular PERSON....they were to the universe..theres a dif...a big dif...

2005-06-04 [Daughter of Isis]: but u kno that....lol

2005-06-04 [SatinkaWolf]: of course I do... love you, though... so they did work in one way... we love each other more than ever.. lmao

2005-06-05 [Tanka]: some people are just so closed minded and ignoreant i wanna smack em up side the head. Patience is one thing i don't have with people. with animals and nature to the ends of the universe but ppl drive me insane.

2005-06-06 [Daughter of Isis]: [SatinkaWolf]...very true....thats a great point...i hadnt thought of it that way...just one more reason why i love you!

2005-06-06 [deviey]: totally same here!!!!!!!!!!

2005-06-07 [Maximum Kai]: Just dropping by to say Hi to all my friends. Life been really busy for me and Ive been working hard to keep it from beoming "difficult". Hmm Love Spells eh? Sure they exist there are two kinds of Love Spells. One that works to help you find love by asking the Univierse to send you someone who fits the qualities you asked for since that doesnt interfer with free will and if they fall in Love with you nautrally so be it. The other one that works to manipulate the heart and mind into falling for someone and targeting a specific person is a big NO NO. Ive seen lots of spells gone bad and sometimes I have to undo what was cast. Mind you that those spells where never cast by me I know better.

2005-06-07 [Titchy-Witch]: i agree with ya, and Daughter of Isis. Controlling free will goes agaainst your mortal being. but with 'undo'ing spells, you should have cast them so if they cause harm they become harmLESS. i've never done a love spell because i believe things like that shouldn't be meddled with.

2005-06-07 [deviey]: yup yup!

2005-06-08 [Tanka]: so what's next on the topic agenda?

2005-06-08 [Daughter of Isis]: i tried tochange that, but my net cut out on me...ill change that now...hmm...lets go in the opposite direction, shall we??? lets say...hexes???

2005-06-08 [Tanka]: oh i hate when my computer refuses to do what i say. well i know they exist but i prefer to follow the rule of 3 and not have anymore bad luck than i've already had happen to me. but somedays i'm tempted to do a karma spell on my sister.

2005-06-08 [Daughter of Isis]: you can only do it with her knowledge and consent....otherwise you get the reverse effect that you had wanted....it comes back on you negatively, as well as holding the possibility to harm her....

2005-06-08 [deviey]: ouch

2005-06-09 [Maximum Kai]: hehe I do Hexes all the time its super fun for me. Im kidding about it but sometimes you just want to but I know better than to mess with Karma. Then again I like to live on the dangerous side. There are 2 different kind of Hexes one that hurts and one that helps. The one that hurts are the one that you want to be careful with you could end up hurting the people around you. The one that helps allows you to place a geas on the person so they wont bother you or hurt you (its like a protection spell but a little more umph to it) I really cant explain it but sometimes I just know. Everyone has their moments when they just know about things you normally wouldnt know.

2005-06-09 [Tanka]: yes i know the rule fuck with karma for someone else it is a snake and can also bite you

2005-06-10 [Titchy-Witch]: for me, hexs major no no.

2005-06-11 [SatinkaWolf]: i just stay away from hexes and advise others to do the same, as any of my friends (Daughter of Isis, Maximum Kai, etc...) can tell you... better safe than sorry... I've only done 1 actual spell and I've been practicing for years... I know a helluva lot, probably enough to write a book, but I don't use it for actual spellcraft yet... specifically because it is just that, a craft.. you need to know it well to handle it...

2005-06-11 [SatinkaWolf]: not that I don't believe in natural abilities.. as myself and several friends seem to have them... I'm just saying, in general... knowledge is power and all that...

2005-06-12 [*~`Lady of Avalon`~*]: hewes and spells aere not to be triffled with

2005-06-12 [deviey]: that's what I think

2005-06-13 [~Crimson Angel~]: hi

2005-06-13 [JWOlette]: same here but how is everyone doing and im sorry i havent been on for a while but ive been fighting with my boyfriend and im finally single again but not for long

2005-06-14 [SatinkaWolf]: there are a lot of things that shouldn't be trifled with, but that doesn't stop people... i see no problem doing something, as long as you are prepared to accept ANY possible consequences of your action...

2005-06-14 [*~`Lady of Avalon`~*]: Yah but many people don't understand the conequences of their actions

2005-06-14 [SatinkaWolf]: too true...

2005-06-14 [SatinkaWolf]: I love your topic of the week, tiff... especially the "I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT!" lol

2005-06-14 [~Crimson Angel~]: Hi,how is everyone here.

2005-06-14 [Tanka]: a friend of mine thought she'd be all cool and hex her ex bf new girl friend but when it blew up in her face she blamed everyone and thing else other than herself and she had enough aggorance to tell me i didn't have a clue. she was very frustrating and originally i tried to teach and correct her but after a while it just took to much out me to do so. so i figure that she'll either learn or have bad karma for the rest of her life.

2005-06-14 [Tanka]: obviously i have little patience something i'm trying to fix i swear, hi misty of chiconouge, lol jk

2005-06-14 [Daughter of Isis]: like that one britt? lol just figured id get that in before...just in case....Tanka, i dont blame you for giving up, i ended up doing the same last year.....but if she ever does need you, make sure you're open to her....

2005-06-14 [Tanka]: yeah i am we're still friends i just steer clear of discussing magick with her.

2005-06-15 [SatinkaWolf]: if they aren't willing to learn, they can't be taught... eventually, the right teacher will appear for her or it wasn't meant to be...

2005-06-15 [SatinkaWolf]: love it, tiff...

2005-06-15 [Tanka]: *nods* that's the truth.

2005-06-15 [SatinkaWolf]: yup, yup, yup.... that it is

2005-06-16 [~Crimson Angel~]: Hi

2005-06-16 [JWOlette]: im gonna agree with britt if they arent willing to learn then they cant be taught but someday this girl is gonna wish she sat and listened to your advise

2005-06-16 [SatinkaWolf]: agreed

2005-06-16 [JWOlette]: so i have a BIG problem my ex is sitting outside my house hes been there for like 4 hours and i had to leave and go to my boy kyles so he wouldnt hurt me or break in what do i do???????

2005-06-16 [SatinkaWolf]: anyone else around?

2005-06-16 [JWOlette]: nope its just me and kyle at his house

2005-06-16 [SatinkaWolf]: get someone to come over... Kyle, maybe? or call someone to get him "removed" lol...

2005-06-16 [JWOlette]: i had to leave my house because of this im not at home im at kyles so i dunno if hes still there i hope not

2005-06-16 [SatinkaWolf]: o ok... good luck

2005-06-16 [JWOlette]: thanks

2005-06-16 [Tanka]: my recommendation is get a restraining order against the ass that or go make friends at local renfest cause we watch each others back

2005-06-17 [~Crimson Angel~]: dude I think he was stalking her.

2005-06-17 [JWOlette]: what is the renfest and if you were talking about me then yeah he is stalking me

2005-06-17 [~Crimson Angel~]: Will you guys and girls please go to Rape=Hate?

2005-06-17 [Tanka]: renfest= a renaissance festival tons of fun especially after hours when the paties start and watching monty pthyon in search of the holy grail with a bunch of drunk jousters ahhh the memories i have from there they're so wonderful. my best friend's ex showed up at fest and was threating her and the turkey cookers and her supervisor told him to basically as nice as i can put this get the hell out of here or die! like i said we watch each others backs.

2005-06-18 [~Crimson Angel~]: ummmmmm

2005-06-19 [SatinkaWolf]: ren fairs are awesome... my friends and i l;ove going to those... fun times, right, Tiff?

2005-06-19 [~Crimson Angel~]: umm ok.

2005-06-19 [Daughter of Isis]: MOST DEFINATELY

2005-06-19 [~Crimson Angel~]: WHAT ARE YOU DOING?????

2005-06-20 [SatinkaWolf]: What is WHO doing?

2005-06-20 [SatinkaWolf]: need a little more info than that in one of these things...

2005-06-20 [deviey]: HIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^ http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/243164 log time no see peoples ^^

2005-06-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: ok

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: so what are you asking bout misty? Hey deviey what's up. I just got back from a wonderful Parelli seminar it was sooooooooo very awesome so much and i learned soooooo much!!!!!!!! I wanna go riding right now but it's dark *sniff sniff* also i joined savvy club yeah!!!!!

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: hey we need a new topic ummmmmmmm... let's see familars would be a good one what does everyone think? sorry about the horse comment just had to tell all you lovly equine lovers. i love my baby and he's my familiar

2005-06-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: that renfest= thing,what is that?

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: renfest = renaissance festival umm people dress like back in the middle ages tons of fun haven't gone? need to go.

2005-06-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: I have been every year with my mom dad and brother.

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: did why did you ask? *shakes her head at the unusal "predetor/human" snorts*

2005-06-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: sorry.

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: *pbsssssssst* wow she really scared me *horsey sigh*

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: no that's allright i'm tired and psycho right now and in some serious horse mode so i'll be weird for the next few days and that's all

2005-06-20 [~Crimson Angel~]: bye-bye.

2005-06-20 [JWOlette]: hey was up everyone

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: i've lost it but that's all so far

2005-06-20 [SatinkaWolf]: i get into wolf and big cat moods, so I understand that... i believe that familiars are a great thing to work with, but they come to you when you need them and are ready... too many people claim to have them, but don't.. or spend too much time looking for them, thinking they can't do anything without them... they'll come when it's time and looking won't make it happen any faster... I prefer working with animal spirits in general... shapeshifting (in the astral, not the physical) is great and very enlightening... ask tiff about some experiences with me when certain aspects didn't shift back to human before I went clubbing or something.. lol... predator loose in a teen club, not good... night

2005-06-20 [SatinkaWolf]: the biting, the stalking, the sniffing... none of it is good in "civilized" society... lol... but it's oh-so-much fun... especially with friends.. I still do it just to feel the rush of power and to get in tune with certain animals... so far, I can only do predators, though... I'm not very suited to prey animals... guess it goes to show that personality is everything...

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: defineatly you are obviously a very good communicator to dogs and other predators in the physical so its obvious that you would able to shapeshift easier into these forms where i really suck with predators mainly humans and i am really good with sheep horses and other prey animals but cats i'm really good at too so it's some what weird. oh well. i agree too many people say they have them just to say so but my horse is my other half and we're linked and know what each other is thinking. and i just realized something pat and linda parelli teach riders to bring engery in their bodies up to move their horses and i just now figured out it's the same for witches when we do magick.

2005-06-20 [Tanka]: we use the same "scientifically unknown" energy to transform the pysical realm

2005-06-20 [beanchanjr]: hello.. Im talka's friend. Secondly my familiars a kitty cat! I was watching this christian show, and they started calling devil worshipers PAGANS! oooh you wanna see me pissed!

2005-06-21 [Daughter of Isis]: oh that would piss me off too....as for my familiar, well i have many.....cats, wolves, coyotes, etc....... they like to just hang around me when im not inn much need of help.....oh wait...that doesnt happen.....lol jk

2005-06-21 [JWOlette]: my familliar is a big black panther with blue eyes i found him at an early age i think i was 5 or 6 when i first seen him and ever since ive been able to shapeshift into the panther on the astral plane he always brings confidence and a safe feeling with him he tends to follow me around a lot

2005-06-21 [Tanka]: having anymore problems with the ex? when i shapeshift into the horse its soooooo much fun. you feel free just galloping through moonlit meadows and such and being with the heard is great too.

2005-06-22 [SatinkaWolf]: finally... a topic that has taken off...

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: hello

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: hey, they all took off...once they were put up....hello, wiccan sonora!

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: hello. awww i missed eveyone but you??? ok

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: ????

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: i extend my welcome, sister, and blessed be!

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: sorry kinda lot my train of thought. (just heard something about a friend of mine just know and kinda shook me up)

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: ahh well, welcome all the same....anything i, or we, can help with....

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: maybe see i am just starting to learn wicca but i don't really know where to start i am kinda lost that and i can not yet let my mom know i am not sure she would understand.

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: my mother pretty much knows, but i havent come right out ans said it b/c she wouldnt understand it.....as for where to start, i can help you with that if youd like.....

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: ok. well once i understand it more and can explain it to her i might tell her (but then my aunt (whom i am not be around in ages) knows it i guess but the thing is i can't get hold of her and i am confused) and i would really like it if you could help me

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: of course...ill msg you with a few things that would be good to start with..

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: thank you.

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: sent it

2005-06-22 [Daughter of Isis]: well, i gotta get going......im usually on every night, so leave me a msg if you need/want....good night...and blessed be sister...

2005-06-22 [Eloura]: thank you and i will hopefully see you i must go also.

2005-06-22 [JWOlette]: hey everyone how are we doing im soo happy my ex has finally decided to move on and leave me alone! but if i may suggest something to begin with i would suggest you read the wiccan reed the crede and the atridanes they will help you get an idea of what is seen as right and wrong in this religion playgans has a bunch of links to other wiki pages that have the information posted

2005-06-22 [SatinkaWolf]: If anyone needs a copy of the rede, creed or the ordaines (or whatever they're called), just message me and I'll email a copy.. make sure to give me an email address... when I can, I'll put a link on and create a page with it all right there.. sound good? I like stuff like that, so..

2005-06-23 [Daughter of Isis]: lol put all that in the list i put together for her...hehehehe

2005-06-23 [deviey]: hello everyone ^^

2005-06-24 [JWOlette]: thats good th in king tiff well if she learns one thing from this it wont be revenge hopefully

2005-06-24 [Daughter of Isis]: not a thing i teach, or condone...(sp?)

2005-06-25 [Eloura]: *listens*

2005-06-26 [deviey]: *smiles*

2005-06-26 [Eloura]: hello

2005-06-26 [deviey]: konichiwa (sp?) *bows*

2005-06-26 [Eloura]: *smiles* *and also bows* what does that mean???

2005-06-26 [Tanka]: it's japanese for hello i remember just a little of my japanese my martial arts instructor taught us i can count 1-10 and say hello and turn around but that's it i'm better in french. sonora you should look for scott cunningham books his are great.

2005-06-26 [Tanka]: i did a lot of explaining to my mom of my religion before i told her but she took it really well and a friend of mine had the exact opposite happen his mom freaked torched all his stuff and made him go to curch every other day

2005-06-26 [deviey]: It also mean "good afternoon" my mom said she didn't really care, as long as I didn't hurt myself, other people, or summon some kind of dark creature -_-;;;;;;;;

2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: at least you got a positive reaction a lot of people dont

2005-06-26 [Tanka]: that's why only me and my mother know i'm very leary of who i talk to when it comes to this sort of thing. small town iowa= big scandal

2005-06-26 [JWOlette]: that would suck when i told my mom that i was pagan she was all umm ok i dont really care as long as you believe in something that makes you happy

2005-06-27 [Eloura]: scott cunningham ok i will try but being in a small town also and the fact my parents don't know yet it is kinda hard to even learn it unless at night or alone so i try but getting hold of books is harded but i am trying and thank you for letting me know which books. and thank you Tanka thank you.

2005-06-27 [Tanka]: no problem that's what we're here for to help those who need it right gals?! anyhow just happy to be of service. umm if you can when you go to a larger city talk your parents into going to a bookstore like barnes and noble or what ever they have everything you could want and if your parents ask you what you bought just say it's a fantasy book that's what i did in the beginning.

2005-06-27 [Tanka]: oh and i found this nice celtic book that has some neat stuff in a lot of stories and such. also it tells how to create a thing called a pooka i'm going to try and do it during the next esabat and i'll tell you how it goes. they're this little kind of similar to a familiar but kind of like a house brownie too. it's interesting.

2005-06-27 [Eloura]: awsome (ohh and i will try that but maybe i should tell my mom she might understand but then again who knows her reaction to it *sighs* i might wait a bit about telling her till i am more understanding i don't know whats you opinon?) and kewl good luck i can't wait to find out about it.

2005-06-27 [JWOlette]: if i were you id wait till you knew more about the religion so then if your mom starts asking questions you can answer them but thats just my opinion

2005-06-27 [Tanka]: definatly wait or if she has there's books to help with explaining

2005-06-28 [SatinkaWolf]: there are lots on books about "coming out of the broom closet," as my friends and I call it... scott cunningham is a great start... Raven Grimassi is another good author... Silver RavenWolf is good for some people (like me), but others (like Tiff) don't like her all that much...depends on your point-of-view... Dorothy Morrison has some good books... Ray Buckland is another good one... I could probably keep going, but those are the most common beginner books... Also, experiment with other authors. You never know when you may find something unexpected. Don't be afraid to pick a book that you can't seem to stay away from just because no one has mentioned it...

2005-06-28 [*~`Lady of Avalon`~*]: hellos ^_^

2005-06-28 [SatinkaWolf]: I had one book that appeared to me in, like, 3 different book stores on numerous occasions before I finally bought it. Within a few months, I had also bought its sequel... The book, btw, was "Animal Speak" by Ted Andrews... The sequel is "Animal Wise." Both are very helpful for people interested in working with animals of ANY kind...

2005-06-28 [SatinkaWolf]: hello Lady of Avalon

2005-06-28 [*~`Lady of Avalon`~*]: how about posionis snake ?

2005-06-28 [SatinkaWolf]: yup...

2005-06-28 [SatinkaWolf]: I'd ask for more info, but I g2g... I feel extremely sick right now... night... message me if you want... I'll get it tomorrow

2005-06-28 [Eloura]: i will wait i don't really want to freake her out yet (knowing my luck)

2005-06-28 [JWOlette]: if i were you i would check out Guild of Pagans they have a lot of information on the pagan and wiccan religions

2005-06-29 [SatinkaWolf]: I;m glad that this page is going soooooo much better now...

2005-06-29 [Eloura]: *smiles* i will try to go and look at it

2005-06-29 [JWOlette]: they have a page that you can post questions on and get answers from different members of the wiccan/Pagan community it expresses their veiws on certian subjects and you get really helpful advise

2005-06-29 [Eloura]: thank you but acualy i have a question on the books by Scott Cunningham i found some but i am not quit sure what would be the right one for me

2005-07-02 [Tanka]: ummm... the ... hold on... ok found it Wicca a guide for the solitary practioner and also living wicca are the best to start with then move onto earth magick and the others also if you're interested in herbs get that one too.

2005-07-02 [3 Dreizig]: Hello, sorry to intrude...[Eloura] is a friend of mine, and I was curious about Wicca and their beliefs (since I am undecided). Could anyone possibly tell me the basics??

2005-07-02 [Tanka]: if you want to try the starting out page at the top of the page it's a good start

2005-07-03 [Eloura]: thank you [Tanka] i will see if i can find one and somehow order it with out to much hassle with the computer (it is acting up) and i do like herbs so i will check them out thank you.

2005-07-04 [Tanka]: ummmm... llewellyn.com i don't think that's spelled right but it's close.

2005-07-04 [Eloura]: thank you i will check it out.

2005-07-06 [Tanka]: ok back to familiars what about em? their your compainions and best friends.

2005-07-07 [deviey]: I haven't met anyone with a familiar yet

2005-07-07 [SatinkaWolf]: familiars are great to work with.. very helpful, but you can't search for it... they have to come for you.... Some stay for a short time only, until they finish their "mission".. others stay forever...

2005-07-07 [deviey]: awsome

2005-07-07 [Tanka]: also they can be astral or physical.

2005-07-08 [SatinkaWolf]: yeah, forgot to mention that part... and they aren't always what you want, but they are what they are for a reason... another thing, you might not like how they act, but remember, they are there to help you with something, not to get along with you necessarily, although it is nice if you do get along...

2005-07-08 [JWOlette]: and if at first you dont get along you will once you find the reason you cant get along and come to some form of a truce

2005-07-09 [SatinkaWolf]: yup

2005-07-09 [Tanka]: but figuring out why can be the difficult part

2005-07-09 [JWOlette]: yes it is

2005-07-09 [Shandrill]: Does this thread continue for the whole week?

2005-07-10 [Tanka]: actually it continues until someone decides to change it.

2005-07-10 [SatinkaWolf]: yeah, basically... it was supposed to be a weekly thing, but it's hard for me to keep up because I have to borrow a computer...

2005-07-12 [deviey]: same here

2005-07-12 [Maximum Kai]: I have about 2 familiars but I wouldnt really call them that they are more like life companions. Both of them helped me out when I was in my time of need and also to help boost spells and others things when you need them. They also been there for me when I was feeling sad and lonely. I treat them like a part of my family.

2005-07-12 [Tanka]: my mustang is my familar but i also have a unicorn familiar on the astral plane he's fun to work with.

2005-07-13 [deviey]: kewl ^^

2005-07-15 [beanchanjr]: Woah where did everyone go??? Anyways... Id really like to learn how to read the stars and planets beter... Its a bit confusing...

2005-07-15 [Daughter of Isis]: hmmm....what aspects of them?? theres several different thing you can do,and each takes a diferent way to look at them.....for instance, making a natal (birth) chart, i haveto use a book....lol its VERY extensive....

2005-07-15 [SatinkaWolf]: A simple natal chart is easy.. They take me, like 5 minutes if I know your ascendent sign... anyway... I have a pack of wolf familiars on the astral plane... just ask Tiff or Sam... They are ALWAYS there for me when I need them and they are VERY helpful... I'm interested in ALL nature-related work and several other topics, so I really can't tell you.... You'd have to message me individually...

2005-07-16 [Daughter of Isis]: yes, a SIMPLE one is easy...but i do the in-depth ones...youve seen em, britt....tho i have seen some that put mine to shame...theyre frickin nutters!!!